Marriage to egyptian man

Post by **Patsykatie** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:16 pm

i got married to an egyptian man im his only wife, im 34 he is 30 hes 31 this year ... we both have copies of the papers it was done very quickly at the end of my stay,,,, so wasnt just to have sex, is this a legal marriage as it does mention a dowry which i declined cos i really dont want anything for marrying him im english ,,, it also mentions divorce,, and what would happen to any children that come out of the marriage it all looks very legal 2 male witnesses and how much to pay if we divorce .. can anyone tell me if this is legal marriage .. and what happens now does he register his copy and i have to register my copy in cairo if so how long have we got to do this as im home now and going back in may ... someone said it may be orfi marriage but isnt that just to have sex .... if so why wait till end of my stay .....i really hope this is legal as i do love him very much . pls advise ta from patsy

Post by **Hurghada Lady** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:42 pm

Hi Patsykatie,

Welcome to the forum, where did you get married was it in Cairo?

Post by **Patsykatie** » Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:23 pm

no was in sharm but he said he would register in cairo

Post by **Karenh** » Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:56 am

Hi and welcome to the forum.
If you look on the blu side (luxor4u.com) there is a great deal of information on marraiges Ofri and registered. Did you marry with a solicitor and was it at Delta Sharm? It is very hard for us british to understand the egyptian laws in relation to marraige and there are somany horror stories it makes you wary. WHere is your husband from and when you return in May are you going to meet his family?

Post by **Patsykatie** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:58 am

yes it was a solicitor office and yes i will meet his family we exchanged rings what happens with the papers does he register them himself or do i go with him it all looks very legal ... like registrars in england ... he rang me this morning and said come in 2 weeks instead of may but i cannot just get up and go... all i need to know is .. is it legal if he registers the marriage in cairo ... and is it legal if he doesnt .... all the things i wrote on here does that sound like its a proper marriage... i feel like it is real but people really are putting doubts in my mind ... he keeps calling me his wife hahaha ... so for now thats what i will be ... thanks for answering ...

Post by **Karenh** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:12 am

As far as I am aware you have to be there to register the papers, I may be wrong but as I said before check out the LUxor4u.com site ~ there is alot of info on that.
If it remains unregistered so ong as the papers remain intact it is still considered as a maraige an Orfi one, as to end it you need both copies and destroy them.
You can go to the blue side (Luxor4u) by the link at the bottom of the page and can register using the same details as this site. Remeber no one really knows apart from yourselves how you feel, but it is so frustrating when the laws are so different. You can pm me if you wish.
Val

Post by **Crazycat** » Fri Feb 06, 2009 9:21 pm

It may well be legal in Egypt (sounds like Orfi) The only way to be legal outside of Egypt is if you get married at the ministry of justice in Cairo and you both have to be there in person. It takes quite a bit of preparation to do it.

Post by **Giulia79** » Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:07 pm

that contract is to be considered as a pre marriage deal,to be legal must be registrated in the government offices and both man husband and wife must be there.Then with that ufficial egyptian marriage go to your embassy to registrate it in your country.

Post by **Bagpuss** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:26 pm

I didn't think that both husband and wife must be there for it to be registered in the goverment offices, not if the partner that is not present has signed a proxy for a solicitor or someone else to represent her / him....

Anyway I was wondering not sure how to spell idle-ly would goverment offices in Egypt register 'unnotarised' photocopies or just the original signed copies? Just curious.......

Post by **Bagpuss** » Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:32 pm

Emmm, guess should explain in my reply was assuming it was an Orfi and that it was an Orfi to be registered with the Egyptian Courts. I gather that a proper court marriage in Egypt require different conditions and carries more weight than an Orfi / court registered Orfi. However if it does not go to the Embassy the extra weight it carries is still only in Egypt. Just my understanding, could be wrong!

Post by **CocoaButter** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:06 pm

Bagpuss wrote:Emmm, guess should explain in my reply was assuming it was an Orfi and that it was an Orfi to be registered with the Egyptian Courts. I gather that a proper court marriage in Egypt require different conditions and carries more weight than an Orfi / court registered Orfi. However if it does not go to the Embassy the extra weight it carries is still only in Egypt. Just my understanding, could be wrong!

Husband just told me if you get it signed and stamped at the ministry its reconised i dont know for how it stands if you want to use it out of the country or apply for him to reside where you are or what ever your deciding .I do not know ,i know they do change their mind from time to time ,my marriage was done twice and at the ministry and a mosque i could not hide in egypt if i wanted now

got me mug shot and me finger prints ,
it was so alful that day me and my husband remained quiet with each other felt like cows to the slaughter house .Anyway about your orfi thats the only thing i can reccomend ,i am sure as long as its signed stamped its kool ,but others will differ on this and have different opinions or someone will know more ,maybe somebody whos been through the same as you ..
Good luck insha .xxxx

Post by **CocoaButter** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:07 pm

Bagpuss wrote:Emmm, guess should explain in my reply was assuming it was an Orfi and that it was an Orfi to be registered with the Egyptian Courts. I gather that a proper court marriage in Egypt require different conditions and carries more weight than an Orfi / court registered Orfi. However if it does not go to the Embassy the extra weight it carries is still only in Egypt. Just my understanding, could be wrong!

Husband just told me if you get it signed and stamped at the ministry its reconised i dont know for how it stands if you want to use it out of the country or apply for him to reside where you are or what ever your deciding .I do not know ,i know they do change their mind from time to time ,my marriage was done twice and at the ministry and a mosque i could not hide in egypt if i wanted now

got me mug shot and me finger prints ,
it was so alful that day me and my husband remained quiet with each other felt like cows to the slaughter house .Anyway about your orfi thats the only thing i can reccomend ,i am sure as long as its signed stamped its kool ,but others will differ on this and have different opinions or someone will know more ,maybe somebody whos been through the same as you ..
Good luck insha .xxxx

Post by **Bagpuss** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 7:21 pm

100% sure that a MOJ marriage is legal everywhere so your husband is correct CocoaButter. Also from what you have said you are 100% legally married everywhere too.

I was just debating the eternal "orfi" confusion. I have to say I am no less confused about it and what is and isn't possible with regard to it. Just when I think I have understood it, I realise I haven't.

I don't have an "orfi" myself.