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Chocolatey
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I know its nothing to do with Egypt - but I am sure the after effects will - who do you think will get in????
Well if anyone doesn't know by now, I'M AN OBAMA GIRL!
On a serious note, although the republicans have once again turned this into a campaign based on fear mongering and pushing the hate buttons of the under educated, I hope this time around the true issues will hold forth, as the polls currently show. Even when confronted on national TV with balant lies, the republicans are still spinning those lies, insisting they are true when they have been proven false. unbelievable. It's a strategy of deception that goes beyond propaganda. It's frightening.
On a serious note, although the republicans have once again turned this into a campaign based on fear mongering and pushing the hate buttons of the under educated, I hope this time around the true issues will hold forth, as the polls currently show. Even when confronted on national TV with balant lies, the republicans are still spinning those lies, insisting they are true when they have been proven false. unbelievable. It's a strategy of deception that goes beyond propaganda. It's frightening.
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Miriamkhalifa
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For a slightly different perspective --
Why limit yourself, by something as pedestrian as keeping your word, to Federal funding - when you can purchase the Presidency for $605 million, rather than the paltry $84 million the American taxpayers would give you.
As I said, why clutter things up by keeping your word?
Sure, there are many other issues and I would be the first to admit that NO candidate is stellar in their qualifications, but having said that, shouldn't we look at anything we can find that might tell us more about a candidate? A small thing, but why did Mr. Obama listen to Rev. Wright FOR 20 YEARS, before, with the help of the media, deciding his positions were intolerable? What did he think of those views - for 20 years? Sorry for cluttering up this campaign with something as mundane as character.
Yes, I too am quite sure Mr. Obama will win, given his private funding.
Interestingly, someone on TV said recently that the winner of the election -- will be the loser -- given the problems awaiting him. It will be quite a test - I hope we choose someone who can measure up.
Best to all, Esp you, M!
Scott
Why limit yourself, by something as pedestrian as keeping your word, to Federal funding - when you can purchase the Presidency for $605 million, rather than the paltry $84 million the American taxpayers would give you.
As I said, why clutter things up by keeping your word?
Sure, there are many other issues and I would be the first to admit that NO candidate is stellar in their qualifications, but having said that, shouldn't we look at anything we can find that might tell us more about a candidate? A small thing, but why did Mr. Obama listen to Rev. Wright FOR 20 YEARS, before, with the help of the media, deciding his positions were intolerable? What did he think of those views - for 20 years? Sorry for cluttering up this campaign with something as mundane as character.
Yes, I too am quite sure Mr. Obama will win, given his private funding.
Interestingly, someone on TV said recently that the winner of the election -- will be the loser -- given the problems awaiting him. It will be quite a test - I hope we choose someone who can measure up.
Best to all, Esp you, M!
Scott
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I think I should take a moment to explain myself a bit - I know my positions can sound sometimes a little shrill.
I have had some bad experiences in life, as I'm sure we all have, but they taught me that when all else fails, we must rely on such traits as homor and character.
As there is no Training Academy for the Presidency, I think we must look for these traits as assurance that the best choices willl be made as the president confronts issues.
John McCain does not overwhelm me but, as I look at his record, he may have taken positions on some issues I may not agree with, but I think he always acted in good faith. I think you will also hear members on BOTH sides of the aisle agree with that, even the Democratic candidates say that.
However, with Mr. Obama, I have some questions.
1. He sat in Rev. Wright's church, listening to his sermons, for 20 years, even using the Rev. for marriage and christenings. I doubt that the Reverend 'changed his spots' recently, otherwise his congregation would have drifted away. So, why did Mr. Obama wait 20 years to decide Rev. Wright's positions were 'unacceptable'? Do you think the sudden media attention might have had something to do with it??
2. Mr. Obama's position on Federal campaign funding is well documented; first, YES, then, NO. Not just waffling, rather a U-turn, after the agreement.
I admit, these may or may not, be significant. But don't we actually have precious little in the way of a track record to go by?
I just hope, for America, we make the right choice.
Very best to all,
Scott
I think I should take a moment to explain myself a bit - I know my positions can sound sometimes a little shrill.
I have had some bad experiences in life, as I'm sure we all have, but they taught me that when all else fails, we must rely on such traits as homor and character.
As there is no Training Academy for the Presidency, I think we must look for these traits as assurance that the best choices willl be made as the president confronts issues.
John McCain does not overwhelm me but, as I look at his record, he may have taken positions on some issues I may not agree with, but I think he always acted in good faith. I think you will also hear members on BOTH sides of the aisle agree with that, even the Democratic candidates say that.
However, with Mr. Obama, I have some questions.
1. He sat in Rev. Wright's church, listening to his sermons, for 20 years, even using the Rev. for marriage and christenings. I doubt that the Reverend 'changed his spots' recently, otherwise his congregation would have drifted away. So, why did Mr. Obama wait 20 years to decide Rev. Wright's positions were 'unacceptable'? Do you think the sudden media attention might have had something to do with it??
2. Mr. Obama's position on Federal campaign funding is well documented; first, YES, then, NO. Not just waffling, rather a U-turn, after the agreement.
I admit, these may or may not, be significant. But don't we actually have precious little in the way of a track record to go by?
I just hope, for America, we make the right choice.
Very best to all,
Scott
Well it's all over but the shouting now, as we say. Scott the other side of federal campaign funding is why should I, as a taxpayer, have to pay for their campaigns? Especially if I don't support them. I never check that box on the tax returns. Campaign funding is based upon how many people you can get to support you. And the records show and Obama's funding did not come from big pacs but from thousands of individuals like me who sent small amounts of money. Why should we not have the right to support our candidate's ability to spread the word.
But in any event, advertising does not sell a candidate. Who was the millionaire in the race at the beginning who still lost after putting in millions of his own money? In this day, TV is the only media to reach the most people with your message. And it is expensive. But it is the message that sells.
The fact that Barrack Obama was an unknown and came from no where to defeat the two biggest political machines this country has ever known (Clintons and Bushs) tells me that the American people have spoken loud and clear.
But in any event, advertising does not sell a candidate. Who was the millionaire in the race at the beginning who still lost after putting in millions of his own money? In this day, TV is the only media to reach the most people with your message. And it is expensive. But it is the message that sells.
The fact that Barrack Obama was an unknown and came from no where to defeat the two biggest political machines this country has ever known (Clintons and Bushs) tells me that the American people have spoken loud and clear.
At a certain age, everyone has baggage. It's just a matter of carrying it with grace.
Hi, M!!
I think the idea behind the Federal funding was to level the playing field - to avoid exactly what happened.
I agree with you about advertising but I fear that when someone is given $500 million or so - they don't bite the hand that feeds them!!!
Again, I think the idea is to avoid bias.
Oh, well, water over the dam, or under the bridge, or wherever it goes!!!
Now onward and hopefully we can recover the 900 points the DOW lost the 2 days after the election. It shouldn't be a problem with all the volatility - just coincidental that it happened.I had heard that the market is generally not favorably disposed to Democrats and their philosophy - maybe that was it - maybe not - who knows.
So, onward and upward, hoping for the best.
I think the idea behind the Federal funding was to level the playing field - to avoid exactly what happened.
I agree with you about advertising but I fear that when someone is given $500 million or so - they don't bite the hand that feeds them!!!
Again, I think the idea is to avoid bias.
Oh, well, water over the dam, or under the bridge, or wherever it goes!!!
Now onward and hopefully we can recover the 900 points the DOW lost the 2 days after the election. It shouldn't be a problem with all the volatility - just coincidental that it happened.I had heard that the market is generally not favorably disposed to Democrats and their philosophy - maybe that was it - maybe not - who knows.
So, onward and upward, hoping for the best.
I meant the republican machine united under the Bush banner that controlled McCain's campaign and brought us the sorry campaign based on hate and fear.
Clinton's campaign started running out of money when Obama's popularity grew and the Clintons were caught flat footed. To the bitter end, they thought they controlled the party loyals but Obama's message was too popular. Clinton clung to the hope the super delegates would stay in ranks. It took all of the party leaders to convince she and Bill that it was over.
Clinton's campaign started running out of money when Obama's popularity grew and the Clintons were caught flat footed. To the bitter end, they thought they controlled the party loyals but Obama's message was too popular. Clinton clung to the hope the super delegates would stay in ranks. It took all of the party leaders to convince she and Bill that it was over.
At a certain age, everyone has baggage. It's just a matter of carrying it with grace.
Well you're in luck Scott. The DOW is up 146.24 at this moment.
The republicans have engaged in the politics of hate for 8 long years now and I think the fact that they lost 45 seats in Congress speaks loudly that the American people have said enough is enough.
John McCain is a good man. If we had seen the John McCain we've seen for the past 8 years in this campaign, he may have won. But he sold his soul to the Bush machine and we had politics as usual rather than the politics of change. Only at the very end did we see the real John McCain again when he stood up to stop the vicious lies his own campaign was saying about Obama and in his very gracious concession speech. I only wish he had won against Bush.
The republicans have engaged in the politics of hate for 8 long years now and I think the fact that they lost 45 seats in Congress speaks loudly that the American people have said enough is enough.
John McCain is a good man. If we had seen the John McCain we've seen for the past 8 years in this campaign, he may have won. But he sold his soul to the Bush machine and we had politics as usual rather than the politics of change. Only at the very end did we see the real John McCain again when he stood up to stop the vicious lies his own campaign was saying about Obama and in his very gracious concession speech. I only wish he had won against Bush.
At a certain age, everyone has baggage. It's just a matter of carrying it with grace.
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